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		<title>By: Tom N</title>
		<link>http://badconscience.com/2009/07/31/disapointment/#comment-793</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think &#039;mentally ill&#039;, in common palance, also implies an inability to function successfully in society. It lumps Asperger&#039;s sufferers in with obsessives, paranoid schizophrenics, and other delusionals, both violent and non-violent; something many Asberger cases would find either amusing or offensive, depending on their point of view..
 
Exact semantics aside, you&#039;ve got to be careful. The Down&#039;s comparison is a bad one. With relatively few exceptions Down&#039;s cases fall within a certain cognitive/ability range which is, as I understand it, pretty impaired. Asberger&#039;s, on the other hand, is a much broad spectrum. A diagnosis would not, for example, be enough on its own for a diminshed capacity plea in a court case. Though usually socially awkward and thought to be odd, unusual, or creepy by their peers, many Asberger sufferers are high functioning and go on to have kids, good jobs, etc.. Many do have a developed moral sense and it&#039;s a nonsense to say he cannot be tried simple because he has Asberger&#039;s, other reasons aside. The same could not be said of, say, a paranoid schizophrenic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8216;mentally ill&#8217;, in common palance, also implies an inability to function successfully in society. It lumps Asperger&#8217;s sufferers in with obsessives, paranoid schizophrenics, and other delusionals, both violent and non-violent; something many Asberger cases would find either amusing or offensive, depending on their point of view..</p>
<p>Exact semantics aside, you&#8217;ve got to be careful. The Down&#8217;s comparison is a bad one. With relatively few exceptions Down&#8217;s cases fall within a certain cognitive/ability range which is, as I understand it, pretty impaired. Asberger&#8217;s, on the other hand, is a much broad spectrum. A diagnosis would not, for example, be enough on its own for a diminshed capacity plea in a court case. Though usually socially awkward and thought to be odd, unusual, or creepy by their peers, many Asberger sufferers are high functioning and go on to have kids, good jobs, etc.. Many do have a developed moral sense and it&#8217;s a nonsense to say he cannot be tried simple because he has Asberger&#8217;s, other reasons aside. The same could not be said of, say, a paranoid schizophrenic.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://badconscience.com/2009/07/31/disapointment/#comment-791</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, I think I see what you are getting at. It is a somewhat pedantic point. Especially as it&#039;s perfectly normal to refer to people with Down&#039;s syndrome as being disabled...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I think I see what you are getting at. It is a somewhat pedantic point. Especially as it&#8217;s perfectly normal to refer to people with Down&#8217;s syndrome as being disabled&#8230;</p>
<p>?</p>
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		<title>By: Ste For Sure</title>
		<link>http://badconscience.com/2009/07/31/disapointment/#comment-790</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well its a disability...its a syndrome you have from birth. You are not ill because you have it,...its part of who you are. Schizophrenia, bipolar etc are illnesses.

might seem pedantic, but autism/asperger&#039;s/learning disabilities/downs etc are not &quot;mental health&quot; problems, but just facts about the person you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well its a disability&#8230;its a syndrome you have from birth. You are not ill because you have it,&#8230;its part of who you are. Schizophrenia, bipolar etc are illnesses.</p>
<p>might seem pedantic, but autism/asperger&#8217;s/learning disabilities/downs etc are not &#8220;mental health&#8221; problems, but just facts about the person you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://badconscience.com/2009/07/31/disapointment/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 09:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yet more evidence gathered to show that Jacqui Smith has no soul.&quot;

Maybe, but Alan Johnson is Home Secretary now.

&quot;If its just aspergers I’d prefer you changed it, for the sake of being both factually and politically correct. &quot;

I though Asperger&#039;s was a form of mental illness?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yet more evidence gathered to show that Jacqui Smith has no soul.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe, but Alan Johnson is Home Secretary now.</p>
<p>&#8220;If its just aspergers I’d prefer you changed it, for the sake of being both factually and politically correct. &#8221;</p>
<p>I though Asperger&#8217;s was a form of mental illness?</p>
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		<title>By: Ste For Sure</title>
		<link>http://badconscience.com/2009/07/31/disapointment/#comment-787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ste For Sure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is he mentally ill, or does he have asperger&#039;s syndrome, or both?

If its just aspergers I&#039;d prefer you changed it, for the sake of being both factually and politically correct. 

Ta]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is he mentally ill, or does he have asperger&#8217;s syndrome, or both?</p>
<p>If its just aspergers I&#8217;d prefer you changed it, for the sake of being both factually and politically correct. </p>
<p>Ta</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://badconscience.com/2009/07/31/disapointment/#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet more evidence gathered to show that Jacqui Smith has no soul.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet more evidence gathered to show that Jacqui Smith has no soul.</p>
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